Sunday, August 30, 2009

Your Trash is My Cash says Fairbanks Alaska Man

"I even have my own missile," he said.

"Everyone should have their own missile."


Over the years, Karl has built a mini-kingdom from other people's unwanted items. His motto: "Your trash is my cash." At his K&K Recycling 10-acre facility yard in North Pole, he stores such items as pipe and pipeline camps, as well as aging aircraft and steel beams.

"I even have my own missile," he said. "Everyone should have their own missile."

Years ago, Karl was hired to clean up a government Nike site, an anti-aircraft missile system used between World War II and the Cold War eras. The Army left behind a missile in the launch silo. Contracted to take everything out, Karl ended up with the memento.

He finds some interesting uses for many of his long-stored items. Insulated pipe previously used on North Slope oilfields was recycled to move hot water to turbines to power the facilities at his Chena Hot Springs Resort.

Chena Hot Springs is a world-class resort, but the 450-acre lot also is a proving ground for Karl's numerous and varied experiments. Karl has pioneered the use of geothermal energy at the Chena resort, located 56 miles east of Fairbanks.

Fairbanks' Bernie Karl eyes new renewable energy sources

Published Saturday, August 29, 2009





My Dad was assigned to one of the first Nike Missile batteries, that's how he met my Mom (and I wouldn't be here if not for this little fact)



The first 24 Nike anti-aircraft missile batteries were deployed in a ring around Washington D.C., my Dad was in the 16th Battalion. Dad said the Army wouldn't let them deploy until they had successfully shot down a radio controlled WW2 B-17 drone (it took them 2 years of practice to shoot one down, that's how new the technology was in the mid 1950's)


From Wikipedia:
When it became apparent that the greatest threat to US National defense was from missiles instead of bombers, most Nike-Hercules units were deactivated. All CONUS Nike-Hercules batteries, with the exception of the ones in Florida and Alaska, were deactivated by April 1974. The remaining units were deactivated during the spring of 1979. Dismantling of the sites in Florida - Alpha Battery in Everglades National Park, Bravo Battery in Key Largo, Charlie Battery in Carol City and Delta Battery, located on Krome Avenue on the outskirts of Miami - started in June 1979 and was completed by early fall of that year. The buildings that once housed Delta Battery became the original structures used for the Krome Avenue Detention Facility, a federal facility used primarily to hold illegal immigrants awaiting immigration hearings. In Alaska, Site Point was converted into a ski chalet for Kincaid Park.
The US Army continued to use Nike-Hercules as a front-line air defense weapon in Europe until 1983, when Patriot missile batteries were deployed. NATO units from West Germany, The Netherlands, Belgium, Norway, Greece and Turkey continued to use the Nike-Hercules for high-altitude air defense until the late 1980s. With the collapse of communism in Eastern Europe, the units were deactivated.

Sunday, August 02, 2009

Church Hit 2X by Copper Theives

Atlanta Georgia, the NBC channel 11 reports that Theives have hit the same church twice robbing it of copper in the building's heating and air conditioning system.

ATLANTA -- At Trinity AME Church in Southwest Atlanta, Rev. Dr. Jeffery Cooper is tired of being tested.

"I think this is the lowest theft you can do to steal anything from the House of God," Rev. Cooper said.

For the second time in two weeks, thieves stole copper from the air conditioning units that keep the church daycare center cool.

"They pried them open, shut the power down and dismantled each unit for the copper," Rev. Cooper said.

The latest hit happened late Friday night at the church on Lynhurst Drive. Five brand new a/c units were destroyed.

After getting hit the first time, the church beefed up security with double, even triple locks, but the thieves found a different way to get in, get what they wanted and get away.

"The money they'll get for the copper is nowhere near the cost of having to replace these units," Rev. Cooper said.

Sunday's service included a special offering since the church will have to replace the a/c units at a cost of about $10,000.

And there's no time to waste.

It's too hot, and too many families rely on the church for child care.

"Once again, we're under attack," Rev. Cooper said.

Rev. Cooper wants to warn other churches about what happened, and he's hoping someone will help police find the thieves responsible.

"No person who takes from God is going to be able to gain in the process," Rev. Cooper said.

As many as 100 children attend Trinity Daycare Center.

They'll be moved to a different part of the church campus until the a/c units can be replaced.



Thursday, May 14, 2009

Demand for Scrap Evaporated, slowly inching upwards

Drop In Chinese Demand Melts Scrap Metal Market



November 13, 2008 · Just months ago, scrap metal was in such high demand that thieves around the world were pulling up manhole covers, fire hydrants and even monuments to the dead to sell them. Driven by China's insatiable appetite, prices for scrap metal had skyrocketed. But now, the scrap metal industry has been hit hard by the global financial crisis — and scrap yards themselves could be facing the scrap heap.

Scrap Metal being sold to India: then... not now



http://www.export.gov/india/scrap.asp

The Indian metal industry is growing at a pace as fast as India’s industrial economy, offering one of the steepest returns in the Asia-Pacific region. The metal scrap recycling industry in India, is also growing at a rapid pace. As there is less domestic scrap generated then demand, India imports about half of the 1.2 million metric tons of scrap metal consumed annually in the country.

The United States is a major exporter of ferrous and non-ferrous scrap into India. According to the U.S. Institute of Scrap Recycling Industries Inc. (ISRI), the U.S. based scrap industry is a significant exporter of high quality scrap commodities to industrial consumers worldwide. Asia, and India in particular, is one of the fastest growing markets in the world for scrap metal. In 2005 (the latest year for which data is available), U.S. scrap exporters shipped more than $350 million of scrap commodities to India, including approximately $250 million of ferrous and nonferrous scrap. (see Market Demand below)

Though the opportunities in the Indian scrap sector are large, the industry is unorganized. Thus, U.S. companies are encouraged to be careful in all of their deals. Many Indian scrap importers are small and it is important for U.S. exporters to check the credentials of an Indian company. ISRI’s specifications should be used at all times to eliminate any possible discrepancies. To avoid disputes, U.S. exporters must insist on inspections before shipping the products. In addition, U.S. exporters must adhere to the Indian government regulations related to scrap metal exports including registration with India’s Director General of Foreign Trade. Disputes can be reduced by adhering to the critical aspects of procedures for exporting cargo (see Market Entry) of scrap containers to India.

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Prices paid for scrap aluminum cans here in Frederick Maryland up a nickle, from low of $.25 lb to $.30 lb.

Reader Input

A reader writes this:

Am I missing something? I have a medium sized range, three clothes washers,  a pellet stove (heavy sucker) and a couple commercial electric service  panels, and a five drawer lateral file cabinet. 
(I'm trying to make space in my evidence storage locker) 
If I am willing to give myself a hernia and  then re injure it 5 times loading this stuff on a truck, and I drive it 30  miles to a scrap dealer and he buys it, I could make back half of my truck  rental expense???? 
What is wrong with this picture? Why would you be in  this business, and is it true that the red Chinese are buying our scrap the same way our other friends did in the 1940's? 
Thanks in advance for sharing  your insight.


My response:

... yup, the days of profitably scraping light weight metals such as tin, junk appliances seem to be gone at least for the next year. When I did it full time back in 2004, 2005 prices were at a 6 year high according to the scrap dealers who were paying me.

I guess we'll have to wait for the economic recovery... which will come (unless the democrats screw things up by being too greedy with their income redistribution/ social engineering experiment). You know... demand rises constantly, it may be pent up demand but when the credit markets/ housing markets/ financial markets settle down and who ever has to take their well deserved lumps takes them... we will be back with a vengance.

Pent Up Demand
That's what got us out of the last depression.



Friday, February 20, 2009

Current State of Scrap Prices February 2009

Scrap Prices,


particularly scrap aluminum prices had the bottom drop out in the past 2 months.


They say pictures tell a thousand words, these two that I took tell a story of more than 50% drop right here in Frederick Maryland: (I learned more about how to use my fancy camera too!)

Before:


Reliable Recycling in Frederick Maryland
picture taken September 19, 2009



After:


Aluminum Scrap Price posted Frederick Maryland<

picture taken January 30, 2009

To their credit the scrap recycling centers are not even sure they are going to be able to sell what they buy this month. We shall see what the stimulus package does in the way of helping.

I've been focusing on aluminum primarily because to scrap steel requires a heavier truck and stronger back. I killed two pick up trucks over the past 15 years- the wieght tends to wear out the brake rotors even if they suspension can handle the load. You've really got to have a 3/4 ton or higher and a trailer if you're going to earn honest money on the side in this business.

I'll include this next reblog to cover the news on steel prices as well.


U.S. scrap and pig iron prices continued to drop.
Current scrap price on East Coast hit US$230 ~ 240/ton, shredded scrap price at US$220~230/ton, while H1 scrap price reached US$195~205/ ton.As for the export, because of weak demand in steel products and the cut of steel output, scrap export prices were also very low. The H1&H2 (80:20) mixed scrap exported to Turkey priced at CFR US$265/ton, down by US$15/ton compared with January.

In addition, the price of pig iron exported to Brazil dropped back to US$260/ton.

http://scrapmetalpricesandauctions.com/2009/02/us-scrap-metal-pig-iron-prices-continue-slide/



Thursday, January 15, 2009

35% Drop in Aluminum Prices

Alcoa Aluminum posted a $1.3 Billion Dollar Loss

according to Reuters
Alcoa said there was a 35 percent decline in aluminum prices in the quarter and a sharp drop in demand, particularly from the automotive, commercial transportation and building and construction sectors


I guess that pretty much makes Aluminum a wrap.

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I got into this business hauling scrap steel in Baltimore and changed over to Aluminum because heavy steel ruined my pick up truck. Not to mention steel girders were hard on my back.

Copper is alleged to continue to be scarce


According to the Metals: Price Review of the London Metal Exchange
Analysts are largely predicting continued tightness for some time yet: “There are constantly downward revisions to output growth in copper, partly because there have been delays to new projects,” says Barclays Capital’s Ingrid Sternby. “Mine production will grow some 800,000 tonnes less than anticipated due to technical problems and other supply constraints, and these factors are likely to last longer than the market had widely believed.”

There have been many disruptions to supply this year, from equipment failures such as that at the Collahuasi mine in Chile in early 2005, to the effects of earthquakes in Chile’s Cerro Colorado mine, along with the effects of industrial action at numerous many facilities.

Furthermore, industrial production growth is accelerating again, suggesting upward pressure on global demand in areas other than China, and further supply disruptions or delays to new mining projects coming online could exacerbate supply constraint for a longer period than some had expected. Many analysts are set to remain extremely bullish about copper prices in the longer term.


Copper is used in huge quantities by the US military. Bullets need copper. Afghanistan (and hopefully not Pakistan) is going to need a "surge" just like Iraq did. Bullets were said to be so scarce last year that some police departments reported that it was becoming difficult for them to find certain types of ammunition.
I think the military ordinance demand put a hurting on the availability of ammo (and by extension, copper)

http://www.metalprices.com/ is displaying a graph (that I do not have permission to reprint here) depicting a recent sharp rise in Copper Prices.

I'm wondering if old heating elements might be worth more in 2009. Tungsten is required for Military armor, ammunition and cutting tools. Nickel is looking like its on the rise but I cant think of anything offhand that would be in a dumpster that would have enough nickel in it to make it worthwhile to scavenge.

I'll keep you posted

Saturday, January 10, 2009

Alcoa lay offs translate to low scrap prices

It looks like the bottom has dropped out of demand for Aluminum.

Alcoa to lay off 13,500 workers, freeze salaries and cut spending by 50%
PITTSBURGH — Aluminum producer Alcoa Inc. said Tuesday it will cut 13,500 jobs, or 13 per cent of its work force, and slash spending and output to cope with the global economic slowdown.
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The Pittsburgh-based company also said 1,700 contractors will be cut as part of a broad-based plan to reduce costs that includes a global salary and hiring freeze.

As a result of its actions, Alcoa expects fourth-quarter charges of between $900-million (U.S.) and $950-million. The company plans to report quarterly results Jan. 12. Alcoa also said the moves are expected to save the company about $450-million annually, before taxes.

“These are extraordinary times, requiring speed and decisiveness to address the current economic downturn,” said Klaus Kleinfeld, Alcoa's president and chief executive officer.


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Looking like we should be focusing on copper and that means scouting the plumbing companies. And that means looking for industrial parks.

The downside of scraping a heater core is releasing fluorocarbons into the atmosphere. There are stiff fines for doing this, it is illegal for a reason.

Sunday, November 23, 2008

Mid Maryland current price of scrap being paid

That much less mining the earth - now that's GREEN

Photo provided courtesy Flickr User Proggie

Today's post is right from the Hagerstown Maryland ConservIT recycle yard:

18656 Lizley Drive
Hagerstown, MD , 21740
Phone: 301-791-0100
FAX: 301-739-8548
Website: www.conservit.com
Business Activity: Manufacturer / Distributor / Exporter

Products Description:
Recycling metal Recycling services, Refuse treatment, Ores, Minerals and ores and metals, Precious metals, Minerals, Base Metals

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Metal Price lbs.
5' & Under P&S $3.00 100
Alum Cans $0.35 1
Alum Cond $0.15 1
Alum Cu Cond $0.20 1
Alum Siding $0.20 1
Alum Wheels $0.20 1
Bare Bright $0.90 1
Bronze $0.40 1
Bus $1.00 100
Car / Shred $1.00 100
Car Rims $1.25 100
Carbide Tips $0.05 1
Cars $1.00 100
Cast Alum $0.15 1
Cataltytic Convertors $2.00 1
Catv Cable (BLK) $0.10 1
Catv Cable (WHT) $0.15 1
Clean Alum $0.15 1
Clean Motors $1.00 100
Copper #1 $0.90 1
Copper #2 $0.80 1
Diesel Radiators, CLN Truck $0.50 1
Dirty Motors (Gasoline) $1.00 100
EC Wire Clean $0.20 1
Electric Motor $0.03 1
Extruded Alum $0.20 1
Farm Machine $1.00 100
Heater Cores $0.30 1
Heavy Break $1.00 100
Irony Alum $0.05 1
Irony Diesel Radiators (Truck) $0.15 1
Lead $0.02 1
Light Copper $0.70 1
Litho Sheet $0.20 1
Mixed Alum $0.15 1
MLC $0.20 1
Old Sheet $0.15 1
Prep#1 $3.00 100
Prep#2 $0.00 100
Radiators $0.50 1
Random Rail $1.00 100
Red Brass $0.50 1
Shredder $1.00 100
Stainless $0.10 1
Truck $1.00 100
Unprep Struct $1.25 100
Unprep#1 $1.25 100
Yardcast $1.25 100
Yellow Brass $0.40 1
Zinc $0.05 1

Oh, and Aluminium Cans: $.35

Got these prices directly from ConserveIT website

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Today was my birthday, my kids took me out to eat... I'm 51 today.
That's why there wasn't a post from me yesterday, but I'll keep you *posted*

PS) The other day when I called around Mid Maryland and the Baltimore region for current price quotes paid to us scrapers by the recycling centers (who in turn sell the scrap to processing centers) one guy told me this very candidly:

"We're buying aluminum right now and just letting it pile up. That's why we're not paying as much for aluminum as we were 2 months ago. Right now demand for aluminum just dropped to zero. We're hoping to sell our stock pile next year, but we're not even sure we're gonna be able to sell it next year"



Today's recommendation:

Look for copper... I'm gonna
c ya

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